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Saturday, October 14th, 2017SUGGEST NEWS

Las Vegas Shooting
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar on October 14th, 2017 @ 12:21AM

10/11 - Las Vegas gunman's girlfriend added to travel watch list: Officials

10/11 - that the news from the new timeline is not that the security guard was shot earlier than previously stated, but that the news was "that the agent of the hotel who should have been carrying with him a recording device -- a device which would have allowed the head of security or somebody in security to listen in – was shot at 200 times by an automatic weapon.”

10/11 - Las Vegas shooter's home broken into despite intense FBI, police interest

Note in Las Vegas gunman's hotel room included details of bullet trajectory

I'm starting to smell cover-up.

I love the Mandalay Bay. I've stayed there 2-3+ times. I hope they don't get major screwed because of this. :(

Fucking horrible and about the only counter I know is for more people to be armed but you can't be armed in casinos. I'm so depressed about this.
I've stayed at that hotel like 4x. That's where Blizzard has had a bunch of Vegas Trips.

Statement by President Trump on the Shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada - I certainly find that moving.

PICTURED: The lone Las Vegas gunman, 64, who murdered 58 and injured 515 concert-goers with an automatic rifle from his suite on 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay in America's deadliest mass shooting - before comitting suicide, then he escapes justice.

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He will not escape justice. There is an eternal justice to come that will be given to him by a perfect and righteous God. We are assured of that in scripture.

AggieSpirit
- 2017-10-02 12:40:36


the only counter is more guns? that's absurd.

nate_orenstam
- 2017-10-05 08:59:31

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nate_orenstam
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October 7th, 2017 @ 10:22PM

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Mexico has strict gun laws in line with the UK and many European countries. Columbia has strict gun laws.

Mexico and Columbia have dysfunctional justice systems. One of these countries has wide swaths of itself run by the narco kingpins and no, they don't really care about gun laws. The other has open rebellion and no, lots of people there don't care about gun laws.

Be real, even the most Infowars-ed MAGA humper has to admit that either country wishes it were comparable to the United States.

Again, if you pass ever more restrictive gun laws, you weaken the ability of the individual citizen to defend themselves against people who have no regard for any laws.

Two thoughts on that. One, I'm sure you've seen the research that indicates how unlikely it is that Mr Random Gun Owner cowboys up in a pressure situation and actually improves things. I can't say it never happens, but that's about all I can't say. Second, yes, that's the point. It also weakens the ability of random gun show aficionado to shoot his way onto the news. It also makes it harder for every one of the owners of the guns used in all those other non-act-of-defense US shooting deaths every year to get them.

My current theory is that Paddock, at age 64, realized he was a nobody--and set out to change that.

I agree, and further I think that should be your default theory anytime something like this happens.

Also, I'm a registered Republican, but any time is a good time to talk about gun control.
AggieSpirit
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October 7th, 2017 @ 5:58PM

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Your examples show you are approaching this from an innumerate direction. I understand American cultural hegemonists fear the Caliphite terrorist but most of the massive amount of shooting deaths in this country are not of this nature. They are the suicides, the fights, the crimes. These situations might be improved without such ready access to guns.

It is not only Islamic terrorists. Look south of us in Mexico. Mexico has strict gun laws in line with the UK and many European countries. Yet, machine guns and semi-automatic weapons are STILL being used in murder after murder there.

Columbia has strict gun laws. Yet machine guns are still ending up in the hands of drug runners and FARC rebels there.

I could go on and on. It doesn`t have to be an Islamic terrorist only..... it can be anyone with a desire to obtain a highly deadly weapon.

Again, if you pass ever more restrictive gun laws, you weaken the ability of the individual citizen to defend themselves against people who have no regard for any laws.

The logic is not on your side here. Raw emotion should not dictate policy or seize precedence over individual liberties.
BlueFalcon
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October 6th, 2017 @ 7:19PM

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We live in an era where everyone under age 45 feels the need to broadcast their most mundane thoughts via social media to a legion of people with whom they are semi-acquainted. Everyone is self-absorbed and self-important. The privacy and reserve of a man like Paddock must be inconceivable for Gen Xers and Millennials. The initial investigation indicates that Paddock had little or no online presence. He kept his distance from neighbors and had few friends. He was a cypher.

My current theory is that Paddock, at age 64, realized he was a nobody--and set out to change that. He had no children, no wife, and no spiritual belief system. He had a network of homes in locales that could be best described as retirement home strip malls. Even the homes themselves were furnished like freshman dorm rooms. His brother, Eric, didn't even seem to know Stephen at all. Those interviews he gave were wildly inaccurate in light of what transpired. Neighbors and acquaintances paint the picture of a guy who was a zero point zero on the personality scale. His life was utterly banal and without meaning. Just chase after gambling rewards programs and deal with his pain-in-the-ass Filipina girlfriend (who, fittingly enough, used to be a casino dealer).

I think Paddock was a smart guy. He realized he was coming to twilight years of his life without doing anything meaningful. Based on his accounting background, I'm guessing he was very detail oriented and a deep thinker. A few of his acquaintances describe him as a careful planner. I think he took up gambling as a hobby because it gave him a thrill. Over time, the thrill faded and it became a grind. This ennui along with his loose bonds to society led him to put that big brain of his to work in other ways.

Current reports are that he may have considered shooting up a hip-hop festival or Lahllapalooza. If that's the case, it seems the choice of a country music festival has little or no political or ideological meaning. The festival was targeted because it was a large group of people, not because it was a bunch of meat eating, gun toting, American flag wearing, Trump loving Republicans.

The fact that Paddock (as of this writing) didn't leave an explanation or manifesto makes his act a bit of a Rorschach in the eyes of the beholder. If you're a conservative or a MAGA guy, you hope he was some liberal Antifa who targeted an ideological enemy. If you're a liberal, this is the perfect time to talk about gun control. If you're a white male, you just hope he got radicalized by ISIS so you can blame the religion of peace. If you're RRP, you know this is a "false flag" operation. I've seen theories that Paddock was a secret agent in an Operation Fast and Furious type of sting gone horribly wrong. With every passing day where Paddock's motivation and intent remains a mystery, the fault lines deepen and the conversation grows. Assuming that no definitive answers are uncovered, books and books will be written about this incident. Paddock's name will be trotted out from time to time and live on in our memory--and maybe that was his point.

Note: I realize I spelled the music festival that ends in "palooza" incorrectly. This site won't let me post if the first three letters are "el oh el".

EDIT: I forgot to add--I wonder if a medical diagnosis will be uncovered. Something like pancreatic cancer. Maybe Paddock was motivated by his impending demise. Or, maybe he was just bored. Idle hands are the devil's workshop.

EDITED: 2017-10-06 19:23:18
nate_orenstam
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October 6th, 2017 @ 2:32PM

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There is no counter. If you take guns away from all the good guys, then only the bad guys will have guns. Then we will be even more at risk. Machine guns were used in the Charlie Hebdo and Concert attacks in France. France has extremely strict gun laws for even handguns and shotguns. Yet the bad guys got machine guns anyways, and used them.

Your examples show you are approaching this from an innumerate direction. I understand American cultural hegemonists fear the Caliphite terrorist but most of the massive amount of shooting deaths in this country are not of this nature. They are the suicides, the fights, the crimes. These situations might be improved without such ready access to guns.
AggieSpirit
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October 5th, 2017 @ 6:52PM

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There is no counter. If you take guns away from all the good guys, then only the bad guys will have guns. Then we will be even more at risk. Machine guns were used in the Charlie Hebdo and Concert attacks in France. France has extremely strict gun laws for even handguns and shotguns. Yet the bad guys got machine guns anyways, and used them.
nate_orenstam
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October 5th, 2017 @ 8:59AM

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the only counter is more guns? that's absurd.
AggieSpirit
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October 2nd, 2017 @ 12:40PM

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He will not escape justice. There is an eternal justice to come that will be given to him by a perfect and righteous God. We are assured of that in scripture.


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