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Thursday, November 19th, 2015SUGGEST NEWS

Syrian Refugees vs. Terrorists
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar on November 19th, 2015 @ 1:36PM

House defies Obama, approves bill halting Syrian refugees

After Attacks, France Increases Its Commitment To Refugees

So we want to be nice people and help the poor people of south America and Syria. So the Christian thing to do is help them and take care of them right. But then the terrorists are taking advantage of the near zero screening process to sneak in terrorists into the bunch. So people are like fuck the refugees, we don't them. So the poor people trying to escape war are screwed because some terrorists are sneaking in with them. Then people on both sides (fuck the refugees) and (f the people who say f the refugees) go at it and guess what. Neither side is right. That's how the middle east works. No one wins. There's no one we can bomb. The terrorists mix in with our populations and the populations of the countries.

About all you can do is bomb specific targets (which they've been doing), and bomb any collections of them and screw the civilian deaths. Which they're also doing.

But as you can see, there's no solution there. And guess what, letting tons of muslims into America/Europe is also hurting the whole process as radical muslims that hate jews and western culture are also going in there with them.

The question is what is anyone going to do about any of this? Clearly Obama is making things worse by letting all these people into America when we've already seen it failing in Europe (Belgium, France, etc).

Let's just hope there's someone smarter than all of us and our leaders trying to figure out some solution that doesn't involve us all blowing up to fucking terrorists.


While I sympathize for the Syrian refugees, the mass exodus is neither sustainable nor pragmatic as a long-term solution. Already, almost 20% of Syrians have left their country. When will that exodus end? When the only ones left are the extremists? Not likely. And then what...we have to contend with millions of refugees from Iraq? Where do you draw the line?

And with the notable exception of Turkey, why is the support for these refugees disproportionately fall on western nations. The lack of support form Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states is deplorable. Yet it is in those very nations where these refugees would find the best ideological compatibility.

I don't have a silver bullet answer, but it seems to me that if the problem is Islamic fundamentalism, then it only makes sense that the only long lasting solution comes from Islamic moderates. Unfortunately the silent peaceful majority either by way of apathy or the dogmatic and uncompromising interpretation of their religious beliefs have allowed the extremists to drive the agenda.

The pragmatic course of action we here in the West should do is pressure Arab/Muslim nations in the surrounding region to take responsibility and contain the extremists. And I say contain because you'll never ever be able to wipe them out completely. At the end of the day you're fighting an ideology - you simply can't bomb your way to peace.

You can start by cutting off ties and levying sanctions against Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The two biggest culprits in state sanctioned terrorism. Why we continue to be friends with them and send them aid, money, sell them weapons/artillery/military vehicles just boggles my mind.

BiVRiP
- 2015-11-16 21:54:20

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killer6600
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November 16th, 2015 @ 9:06PM

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http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-11-16/shutting-the-door-on-syrian-refugees-helps-islamic-state
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November 16th, 2015 @ 9:54PM

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While I sympathize for the Syrian refugees, the mass exodus is neither sustainable nor pragmatic as a long-term solution. Already, almost 20% of Syrians have left their country. When will that exodus end? When the only ones left are the extremists? Not likely. And then what...we have to contend with millions of refugees from Iraq? Where do you draw the line?

And with the notable exception of Turkey, why is the support for these refugees disproportionately fall on western nations. The lack of support form Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states is deplorable. Yet it is in those very nations where these refugees would find the best ideological compatibility.

I don't have a silver bullet answer, but it seems to me that if the problem is Islamic fundamentalism, then it only makes sense that the only long lasting solution comes from Islamic moderates. Unfortunately the silent peaceful majority either by way of apathy or the dogmatic and uncompromising interpretation of their religious beliefs have allowed the extremists to drive the agenda.

The pragmatic course of action we here in the West should do is pressure Arab/Muslim nations in the surrounding region to take responsibility and contain the extremists. And I say contain because you'll never ever be able to wipe them out completely. At the end of the day you're fighting an ideology - you simply can't bomb your way to peace.

You can start by cutting off ties and levying sanctions against Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The two biggest culprits in state sanctioned terrorism. Why we continue to be friends with them and send them aid, money, sell them weapons/artillery/military vehicles just boggles my mind.
killer6600
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November 17th, 2015 @ 5:02AM

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oil bivrip, its oil
Wootah
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November 17th, 2015 @ 12:52PM

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I think that the it is IMPOSSIBLE to vet syrian refugees. How exactly would we do that? Sure we can interview them, but they can lie. I do agree with BiVRiP that their neighboring muslim countries should be taking them up.


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