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Tuesday, December 30th, 2014SUGGEST NEWS

Sony Pictures, Massive Compromise
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar on December 30th, 2014 @ 1:33PM

12/12/ - ‘Fire Your P.R. Guy’ E-Mail Sends Sony Exec Out the Door
12/12 - ‘Selma’ Director Calls Sony Emails ‘Sickening and Sad’
12/12 - Exclusive: Sony Hack Reveals Jennifer Lawrence Is Paid Less Than Her Male Co-Stars
12/12 - Sony suspends filming after hackers hit payments
12/8 - Sony Hackers Apparently Demand Studio Pull ‘The Interview’ - Bet it's the North Koreans.

12/4 - Sony Hack Reportedly Includes 47,000 Social Security Numbers, Celebrity Data - DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

way to go for the 2nd time.

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Noss
Peon

December 10th, 2014 @ 3:15PM

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Haha, I highly highly doubt that it`s NK. It sounds like hacker trolling at its highest level.
RowdyRoddyPiper
Nut Job

December 15th, 2014 @ 2:14PM

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sony stands for standard oil new york its owned by david rockefeller. this is an inside job to demand net censorship. they will claim they need tighter internet security and of course all that means is shutting down all the news sites that arent owned by the big 3. zuckerberg just went to china and is salavating all over the internet censor premier and learning his tricks on censoring us here at home. its coming.
Gamelore
Marine

December 17th, 2014 @ 1:42PM

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Cool, I'll be there on opening day to make the feeling of oppression more immersive.
forest_queen
Dame

December 17th, 2014 @ 3:04PM

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Not sure if this is a PR stunt, but I bet the movie does well.
Trickshot
Marine

December 17th, 2014 @ 9:11PM

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"sony stands for standard oil new york its owned by david rockefeller. this is an inside job to demand net censorship. they will claim they need tighter internet security and of course all that means is shutting down all the news sites that arent owned by the big 3. zuckerberg just went to china and is salavating all over the internet censor premier and learning his tricks on censoring us here at home. its coming.

Yet all information is still free. I claim Shenanigans. Dummy. The old news sites are DEAD. The big 3? No one listens to them except old people.
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist

December 18th, 2014 @ 6:49AM

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Looks like Sony capitulated....not surprising considering the total lack of support our government is giving them.

Hopefully some white-hat hackers can hack those responsible in North Korea and steal the movie then release it to the public....all of the publicity would ensure that more people see than would ever have saw it in the theaters.

hardcore puppy
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December 18th, 2014 @ 12:17PM

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With all the leaks and PR damage Sony has taken, I'm surprised certain people haven't (forcefully) resigned yet.
BiVRiP
General

December 19th, 2014 @ 9:35PM

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...not surprising considering the total lack of support our government is giving them.

I'm curious, what exactly do you expect the government should be doing? Spend taxpayers dollars to help secure their servers? Sony's a big company. They have all the resources they need to do that themselves. Or maybe you think the national guard should be dispatched to every theater to prevent the alleged attack if the movie is released?

Besides, making a threat and actually carrying it out are two very different things. If NK could target a movie theater, you're still more likely to win the lottery and get struck by lighting the same day than fall victim to an attack. But America being the litigious country that it is, even if Sony posted warning signs, if anybody did get hurt they'd be facing one hell of a lawsuit. So as absurd as pulling the movie sounds, there is a certain logic to it.
hardcore puppy
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December 22nd, 2014 @ 4:30PM

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Anonymous seems to want to get into the mix, prior to Sony announcing the release of the movie on Crackle.

This cyber warfare seems to be getting more attention.
killer6600
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December 22nd, 2014 @ 5:59PM

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i hate to agree with charkoth but if it is north korea behind this the american government should def. be doing something.

bivrip you wouldn't say that if it was a physical attack on a sony building instead of a cyber one
RowdyRoddyPiper
Nut Job

December 23rd, 2014 @ 4:35AM

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north korea cant even build an automobile. they had nothing to do with the sony hack. experts even said it was someone on the inside who knew the way sonys email worked and the internal workings. it was an inside job to revive sopa and hollywood fully supports this. so they can clamp down on websites. king jong dumb ass and his mal nourished windows 95 computers couldnt hack a peanut butter and toast. stop buying into media lies.
BiVRiP
General

December 23rd, 2014 @ 10:02PM

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Well it looks like less and less that NK is behind this whole ordeal. But even if they did have a hand in it, I'd like to clarify my earlier comment.

My opposition wasn't that the US shouldn't be reacting to a cyber-attack from a foreign nation (of course they should). It was concerning what specific aid the government should be providing to Sony. I just found it odd/ironic that a staunch conservative would expect some kind of bail out for a corporate entity by big brother. Perhaps I'm just reading too much into Charkoth's comment.
Noss
Peon

December 25th, 2014 @ 8:29PM

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Honestly BiV, I don`t know what Charkoth is on about. What exactly is the government of the USA supposed to do for a multi-national corporation based in Japan that has already been hacked due to their own shitty security? Start sending troops over?
killer6600
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December 30th, 2014 @ 3:59PM

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isn't saying the government shouldn't do anything if it's north korea behind because sony should have better security on their servers the same as saying cops shouldn't investigate robberies because people should have better locks?
BiVRiP
General

December 30th, 2014 @ 11:20PM

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Investigate, sure. And that's exactly what the FBI did didn't they? That's due diligence and I can get behind that. But more than that?

I see what you're getting at killer but I think you're analogy is flawed. You're attempting to equate a cyber attack from an alleged foreign nation state on a subsidiary corporate entity who while they have a physical presence in the US, is actually hq'd in another foreign nation (not to mention the physical servers themselves may not all be located in the US) - to a physical act by a US person on US soil to another US party.

And yes, I do differentiate a physical act from a cyber act as alluded to by my preceding comment as you're crossing international borders and consequently have to contend with a different set of laws and otherwise legal avenues. That, and there is some legitimate victim blaming that can be made because once you choose to make your presence known/available on the Internet, you automatically assume some responsibility in reasonably securing your person.

From the latest reports, there is more and more evidence that this was an inside job by former/current disgruntled employees. That Sony failed to have an adequate IT policy in place to compartmentalize such internal access or at the very least have monitoring in place to raise red flags over suspicious access/bandwidth usage lies squarely on the shoulders of Sony.

EDITED: 2014-12-30 23:22:40

EDITED: 2014-12-30 23:33:44
killer6600
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December 31st, 2014 @ 11:51AM

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so, for arguments sake it's an inside job(agreed it's looking like that now) and it turns out to be an american citizen. should that person be charged with a crime or not?

you can't charge a foreign nation like north korea with a crime cause they'll just give you the finger, but you have to do something. what that response could be is up for debate but you can't just let nations attack your own economy and say well that company should have done better on their own because it's more than sony that is hurt by this
BiVRiP
General

December 31st, 2014 @ 5:22PM

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If they have evidence that an American citizen did it? Sure, prosecute them. There are plenty of laws that apply. The one that immediately comes to mind is the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Hell, in this day and age I bet you can even use parts of the Patriot Act.

But if it's a foreign nation you're right that you can't just simply charge them. Unless a treaty recognized by both countries has been violated, short of declaring war you're basically left with sanctions and covert measures. In this case, had a foreign nation been involved, perhaps a Stuxnet type attack like the one assumed carried out by the US/Israel against Iran a few years ago could be deemed a proportional response.

I think the disconnect here is that I got the distinct impression that certain parties feel the government should have done more to help Sony but failed to qualify what exactly that "more" should entail above and beyond your typical police investigation and applicable prosecutions.


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