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Wednesday, January 1st, 2014SUGGEST NEWS

New Dog
Posted by: m0rb0 on January 1st, 2014 @ 8:34PM


So we were walking in the park near my house (in Texas) and on the way back to the car, we see this HUGE dog standing by my car. He's obviously a pitbull, but I have another dog of a similar breed (American Bully) and love dogs anyway, so I approached it [carefully]. The kinda jacked up thing is/was he was just scaring the SHIT out of people being at the park. Little kids were crying, and parents were freaking out. No leash, no tags, nothing, just a collar.

So anyway, we waited around for a while, and no one came to get him, so I took him home. He's such a cool dog! He gets along fine with my 2 other dogs, and if no one claims him in the next week or so, I will probably keep him.

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Wootah
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January 1st, 2014 @ 9:33PM

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Well sounds like you know your dogs. I would be scared too. Just read about a pitbull attacking the owner. Are you planning on putting up any 'found' signs?

Keep us posted.
Hammer
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January 1st, 2014 @ 10:31PM

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+1

Pitbulls are over bred and under loved. Far too many are put down every year because people don't know how to properly train them and take care of them.

It's always nice to see one find a good home then get put down.

Just don't forget, society is generally afraid of that breed. Just last year in Long Beach, a cop shot a pitbull dead after it scared someone while LEASHED because the cop himself was frankly afraid of the dog.

I've dealt with enough of them to know they can be great, great dogs, but they are terriers and terriers do require a firm hand till they get older. Sadly Pit Bull's bark does't make someone say "awe, cute" like other terriers such as Cairns, Yorkies, Westies, Silkies and other breeds closer to the root terrier breed.

Good luck! I share Wootah's sentiments, keep us posted.
nate_orenstam
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January 1st, 2014 @ 11:04PM

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hey you found my dog!
Charkoth
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 7:47AM

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I hope you don't have kids or small children around you. I wouldn't trust a dog like that that I didn't train myself. If they weren't trained properly or were mistreated they could flip out at the worst time.

m0rb0
Op

January 2nd, 2014 @ 7:56AM

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Well after one night, the doggie is adjusting just fine. It's pretty obvious it's someone's pet. He's kennel trained, house trained, and was up on my couch like it was his! hahaha

Most "Bull" type dogs get a terrible reputation due to ignorance, and really shitty owners. Like mentioned already, they are all terriers. Terriers' purpose is to hunt/fight until death. It's in the genetics, man.

No kids, just me and 2 other dogs. I've been looking on craigslist, and will keep trying to find an owner. My neighborhood doesnt allow "found" posters, so I will probably have to go back to the park over the next week or so, looking for any "missing" flyers.

He is older, so I think it's possible he got dumped. If that's the case, fuck them, cause he is a SUPER sweet dog!
Slev
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 10:52AM

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I hope you at least plan to take him to the vet/pound to make sure he isn't microchipped before deciding to keep him. If someone lost their dog those are the places they're going to look. Dogs can get loose for lots of reasons.
Charkoth
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 11:20AM

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Yeah I've had my dog run away a couple of times when I was younger and thankfully someone turned him into the pound which is the first place I checked when I couldn't find him.

I have a Westie now so I know all about Terriers and their instinct and personality. Terriers are definitely not for everyone.
Hammer
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 11:24AM

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@Charkoth Pitbulls are capable of being lovable family dogs too. They're better with children then most people realize. They just need a firm, firm hand while being trained and probably in fairness aren't well suited for families with small children till they hit 2 or 3 years old and are trained well.

It's not an impossible task with crating though.
m0rb0
Op

January 2nd, 2014 @ 12:05PM

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My vet is on vacation for the entire month of January. If a week goes by and no one claims him, he's going to Petco for a bath n manicure n stuff, and they will scan him for a chip there.
Charkoth
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 12:22PM

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I know Pitbulls are great dogs and loving animals, but either way, terriers in general are not good around little children. A Labrador reacts much differently than a Pitbull to a perceived aggression. You can train to some extend but having your neighbor or family members kid scarred for life or worse because you ignored their potential is not something I'd want to chance.

I think the media in general comes down way to hard on pitbulls. The owners are the real problem and for whatever reason people from the Ghetto tend to love pitbulls (probably for the intimidation aspect). I know a few people with Hybrids and they want let kids anywhere near their dogs.

m0rb0
Op

January 2nd, 2014 @ 12:30PM

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It comes down to the relationship between the owner and the dogs. Both of my dogs are trained at the tone of my voice, and to obey certain commands. A lot of hours go into tarining a dog. Double or triple those hours to train them properly.

I had a gf who had a son, and he was fine around my Bully. Getting the dog as a puppy helped, because the kid was able to see it grow, and was not scared of it once it reached adulthood.

My Bully is also 2, and like humans, age 2 is freaking nuts. Where he used to obey all the time, now the success rate is like 70%. He has been spending a lot of time crated because he cant behave around people he doesn't know.

This new dog is much older, and much more obediant. He comes when called, and listens to 'outside' . This is obviouslly someone's dog, I hope they're looking for him and didn't just dump him because he has bad hips.
Slev
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 12:41PM

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You really aren't doing what you can to find the owner (it obviously was someone's pet at some point). Browsing craigslist and looking for signs at the park is not being proactive. Call the pound at a minimum. Don't wait a week to have him scanned at petco. Someone is likely very sad right now that their dog is missing. It sounds to me like you're doing the bare minimum so that you can keep the dog

EDITED: 2014-01-02 12:45:57
m0rb0
Op

January 2nd, 2014 @ 1:06PM

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That would be a fair assessment. Im definitely not calling the pound, because they will kill him.

If he's chipped, he'll get returned. I can't steal someone's dog. But no one appears to be looking for him as of yet. You're right, he's someone's pet, yet there's no tag(s), no leash, and no one in the neighborhood has seen him before. Someone is really upset, perhaps, but I've only had him for a day. They may not even know he is gone yet. There's a lot of "could be's" and "maybes".

I lost both my dogs last year, and within a few minutes I was out looking for them. I waited a week, and they didn't come back, so I posted flyers. I got them back, and now both are chipped. I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to drive around my neighborhood and try to find an owner. I also face a fine for posting flyers inside the community. There's a "missing pets" board at the park where I found him. I am going to keep an eye on it over the next week or so. If he is loved, and missing, someone WILL be out looking for him.

If anything, he'll be safe @ my house until he goes back home, or he becomes mine. I don't really have a preference either way. I don't need a 150lb+ un-fixed dog to keep, but if we cant find his owners and/or is in good health, he is definitely worth keeping.
Slev
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 1:23PM

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Dude you don't know if they're looking for them because you're browsing craigslist which they may not think to use and looking for signs at a park where they may not even live close to. If he got out of the house somehow he could have come from anywhere.

Why wait a week to see if he's chipped? If you're unwilling to call the pound which is where the vast majority of people would call first for a missing dog, then at least take him in right away somewhere that can see if he's chipped.
m0rb0
Op

January 2nd, 2014 @ 1:39PM

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Maybe it's different in Seattle? But here in SA, we have one of the largest stray pet populations in the nation. We also kill pitbulls in the municipal area of SA, which is where he was found. Additionally, the pets will only be kept for 14days if found. Giving up someone's pet to a kill-shelter is probably just as bad or worse than stealing it. Additionally, since our abandoned population is so high, the "non-kill" shelters are full. I guess I could drive to Austin, and leave him there?

I think you're insinuating I have a plot to keep him, and thats not the case. The neighborhood I live in is small enough, and the park is actually joined to it. If someone is looking for him, we will know. If he didn't come from the area, then the only recourse is a microchip scan. Being single and as busy as I am, I had to make an APPOINTMENT at petco for next Tuesday. I think it's somewhat unfair for you to accuse me of being lazy, or trying to keep the dog. It's kind of out-of-context for both of us.

I don't see why you're chastising me for waiting a week, especially given my regular vet (who I already called) is not open. I guess I could take time off from work, and go solicit a place to scan him for a chip. Or I could wait, see if anyone is looking for him, then try to find the owner in a more practical way?
Charkoth
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 2:30PM

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Morbo he's saying to CALL the pound, not drop him off there. I would in no way drop the dog off at a pound. Most of them anywhere have a certain amount of time before they're euthanized.

Most people don't have chips in their dogs, I sure don't. The pound is the first and natural place someone would call. You don't need to give them any information whatsoever other than your phone number in case they get a call looking for a pitbull.

That's all he's trying to say man. You *DO* need to do more to help find the owner in the event the owner is looking for him because you're the one who picked up and have the dog.

When my wife found a Siberian Husky a year ago we called the pound daily and tied him to a rope in our front yard for a few days during the day. She desperately wanted to keep it because Huskies are her favorite dog but sure enough a couple of days later a single mother with 3 small children drove by and noticed the dog. They were practically in tears to have found their dog who had run away and they lived a few miles away. Dogs that are in good shape like that are rarely just abandoned. The odds are greater that an owner is looking for the dog than has abandoned it. It is your responsibility to do everything in your power to find the owner.
m0rb0
Op

January 2nd, 2014 @ 2:59PM

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Meh, perhaps I misread what the intent was.

My experience? I had *no* success dealing with our municipal pound when I lost my dogs, and don't put a lot of faith into them. I sat on hold for an hour once, then got dropped. Every time I called it was "you gotta come down and check". They don't offer any kind of "we'll keep a lookout for the owner". I can imagine they field thousands of calls a day, and something like that is not practical given our problem here.

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/City-s-massive-stray-problem-despite-no-kill-goal-4676873.php#/0


I just went to the site I used to find my dogs, and they have a "found pet" registration. I filled it out, which is actually how I found one of my dogs, except I filled out a "lost pet" registration. It'd be nice if our pound had something like this, but all they have is a HUUUUGE database, thats impossible to search, and causes 500 errors. Thankfully this non-profit has written an API that can pull the data and do *some* matching.

I think the point I've been *TRYING* to make, (not very well) is that I've already done more than what most other assholes in this city would do, or choose to do. 150000 stray dogs is A LOT. I see them everywhere. Generally speaking, people in this city DO NOT care about their animals, nor others. By getting a scary looking dog like this off the street, it might keep a family from getting attacked, or it might reunite the dog with its owners, eventually.

Obviously, if it had a tag, or I knew the owner, it'd be home with them right now. But as a sum of all the parts, I AM doing everything in my power, and I'm not going to fight an uphill fight to return a dog that someone might not even be looking for.

I'd also like to point out that he is not fixed, has a hip dysplasia, and is likely over the age of 4. Odds are in this city, and the side of town I found him on, he was a breeding dog, and he WAS abandoned. Maybe that's just me being cynical, but it literally happens here all the time.

I do like the idea of leaving him outside though. We are supposed to get a hard freeze tonight, which is another reason I wanted to take him in. I don't know how cold/warm it will be over the weekend, but it's a good enough idea I might try it. Thanks!

EDITED: 2014-01-02 15:08:59
Hammer
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January 2nd, 2014 @ 9:45PM

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Terriers are hard headed but fiercely loyal; but I'm stating the obvious at this point. I'm on my third cairn terrier myself and the truism is you have to train them right from day one.

Pits always make me sad seeing so few people actually train them well. Then of course because they aren't cuddly and cute looking and they do have very strong paws, a couple of bad pit incidents have made a ravenously bad perception for the breed.

I almost think they might get more respect at the training stage if they would rename the breed to something like "Fighting Terriers" or "Boxing Terriers" or something like that; something that includes their name and something that softly alludes to the fact they are a dog that was breed for 'fighting' (after a fashion). They might get a little more respect from people in he adoption stage as a dog that needs serious attention while being trained.
Charkoth
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January 3rd, 2014 @ 7:18AM

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I hear you Morbo. I live in more of a suburban area than a city so I'm sure the population density in your area changes things.

And yeah Hammer Terriers are awesome but they are typically "one master" type of dogs which makes them extremely protective of that person. My wife will grab me in a hug or something sometimes and my Westie will start growling and we've done everything possible to train him not to.

AfterBurn
Kali Compton

January 4th, 2014 @ 7:28PM

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Phoenix, AZ
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Morbo, just use the golden rule. What would you do if your dog was lost?

It is a real shame to read this case you are building. Your real intent is clear as day and it's simply embarrassing.

A good person does not act this way.


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