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Saturday, June 5th, 2010SUGGEST NEWS

Lost
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar on June 5th, 2010 @ 4:04AM

Ok finished the series. I just watched the rest tonight. Someone I know got a warning letter from their ISP for dloading it.

Spoilers/thoughts in the thread

Strange ending. What does that mean? They're all in heaven now? haha. That show sure got weird the last two seasons. I did think it was interesting to see what would have happened if the plane didn't crash and how their lives would have affected each other.

Also Sawyer the cop, yeah there is a line between a criminal and a cop. The cops get away with being criminals. hah.

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killer6600
Marine

June 2nd, 2010 @ 1:49AM

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i`ve been so upset with people that say they don`t understand the ending, at least nebu is like"oh thats it? ok" some people just don`t get it, the show was never about the island, it was always about the characters and how they grew and interacted with each other, the flash sideways was a purgatory type thing that they needed to all go to after dying and find each other and work together to realize they had died before they could cross over together, because as christian said, the most important part of their life was the time they spent together on the island

in the actual timeline of the show, jack died at the end protecting the island, however he made hurley the protector before he died, and hurley asked ben to help him protect the island, thats why outside the church at the end hurley said "you made a great #2" and ben said "you made a great #1" so what does that mean, timeline 1 ended when jack died and hurley and ben were congratulating each other on a job well done for 5 minutes? no, it means that the time before they died they protected the island together. (for how long and from what is clearly not described)

also everyone else that left on the plane, doesn`t say when they died either, how long they lived and what they did, no one knows, but time line 2 was something like purgatory(for lack of a better word) to all of them, and it wasn`t until they all showed each other something that was important in their life were they shown the truth and realized to remember(locke needed to be able to move his toes, needed jack to fix his spine, hurley needed to kiss liby, sun/jin needed to see their baby, sawyer/juliet needed to touch, jack needed a shock to his pure science beliefs) then they could all cross over to whatever you(the viewer) believes in.

thats how the show was supposed to be seen, now, it makes lots of sense, if you don`t remember walt being special, how blowing up an nuke in 1977 didn`t kill the losties but rather sent them 40 years in the future, and that in the flash sideways they made it seem like the island didn`t exist for dramatic tv scenery in the first episode of the last season, other than that and countless other unanswered questions, the finale makes sense for the fact that it`s a character study and not the xfiles
bshido
Peon

June 2nd, 2010 @ 2:20AM

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Washington
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Cop theme....yeaaaa you really should finish red dead :]
ROBOKATZ
Marine

June 2nd, 2010 @ 4:56AM

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Melbourne, FL
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Don`t fall into the trap of thinking anything meant anything.

The ending just confirmed they were making it up as they went along. Almost as bad as the X-Files.

If anyone tried to publish a book with plots like these, publishers would just laugh at them and think they were in middle school.

I`m done wasting my time with TV sci-fi.
what316
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June 2nd, 2010 @ 6:33AM

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They moved on to the afterlife, a huge white light, implied that it`s heaven. Benjamin Linus doesn`t go inside the church because in his life he had the most amount of sin in the group and didn`t feel right going with that group. It`s likely that he was waiting for Alex to become aware before moving on.

The interesting part is Jack`s son. In the finale when the aware John Locke says "You don`t have a son" it resonates with Jack because it`s the truth. Jack never had a son, so it is the belief of many people that Jack`s son in the pseudo spiritual world is actually Jack as a child. Throughout season 6, in those "flash sideways" we see the losties generally living a life they wanted to live or a life they wanted for themselves (Jack being a good father to his son because in his actual life his father issues were a center point of his character and life.)

The point they were driving home is that everything that happened on the island was real and it mattered. Jack dying with his eye shutting in the same place the series originally began when he woke up is the scene the creators had planned all along. What makes it award worthy is Vincent was there with Jack in the end like he was in the beginning, he laid down with Jack and Jack didn`t die alone, touching on the other major theme of the series...
spoilsport
Peon

June 2nd, 2010 @ 8:37AM

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They all died when it showed they died on the show. The ones who flew away at the end died at some point later, it`s not really important when. Hurley and Ben died at some point in the future, too. The sideways world existed outside of time basically. They all met up in the sideways world so they could move on together.
keepersmith
Marine

June 2nd, 2010 @ 9:12AM

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To me, the ending meant that the writers did not know the the frak they were doing, they had no idea where the story was going, and they just punted.
BiVRiP
General

June 2nd, 2010 @ 10:34AM

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Canada
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I'm just glad that mess of a series is over. The first two seasons were awesome. After that, it became painfully obvious that they were throwing in plot twists and story arcs on a whim in an attempt to keep the audience captivated.

Instead of starting with a concrete goal in mind and developing the series toward that goal, the writers started with an interesting premise and stumbled towards a half-a$$ed conclusion.
Nebuchadnezzar
The King

June 2nd, 2010 @ 2:00PM

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Irvine, CA
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Well thanks for your thoughts.
covact
Baron

June 3rd, 2010 @ 6:48AM

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The World
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One Word

"Nuts"

Wait wrong show
Oddly still applies.
Constrictor
Marine

June 3rd, 2010 @ 1:36PM

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2003-06-08
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Bridgewater, NJ
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Network television is a horrible waste of time. I don't watch a shred of television and I couldn't be happier about it.

The last good series I watched was The Sopranos and it's a pay cable series.
LanceKiller
Peon

June 3rd, 2010 @ 1:37PM

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Not sure if you posted this or not...

Unanswered Lost Questions:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291
Nebuchadnezzar
The King

June 3rd, 2010 @ 2:17PM

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So true, wasn't Syid's partner Nadia?
what316
Shithead

June 3rd, 2010 @ 4:40PM

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TX
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Sayid`s wife was Nadia, but he didn`t marry her until after Shannon died on island. I don`t have any current theories on why Nadia is shown married to Sayid`s brother in the pseudo spirit world. However if I just had to throw one out there it would go like this. In life Sayid was thought of as a bad guy and expected to do bad things. He eventually sees himself that way and doesn`t feel as though he deserves Nadia. It`s possible that he blamed himself for her death. The only thing that seems clear is that Sayid never says whether it`s Nadia or Shannon in 2 episodes leading up to the finale probably for no reason other than they planned to use Shannon all along in the finale.
jdLordHelmet
Good is Dumb

June 5th, 2010 @ 12:13PM

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Atlanta, GA
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i`ve been so upset with people that say they don`t understand the ending, at least nebu is like"oh thats it? ok" some people just don`t get it, the show was never about the island, it was always about the characters and how they grew and interacted with each other

It isn't that people "don't get it." The ending made it's point obvious. What I and many others are upset about is the lack of answers. The purgatory ending only answers questions that were posed in the 6th season, namely the sideways universe.

Saying that the show is about the characters and not the mysteries is a copout. The mysteries of the island were dangled in front of us throughout all 6 seasons and were the reason for the huge following lost had. People went to message boards after every episode to discuss theories about the various mysteries. This aspect of Lost is what made it so different from everything else on TV since the X-Files or Twin Peaks, but I daresay even they didn't have this level of fan involvement. To leave unanswered so many key questions that were all but promised let down a lot of people. Yes, the character development was nice, but the show WAS a plot-driven show, not a character-driven one, and failure to recognize that isn't a difference of opinion, it's a copout. And you are carrying the producers' water for them, and swallowing their BS excuses wholesale.

I liked the finale as a standalone episode, but being the finale I expected more answers.

Edit: And to echo the sentiments above, Lost was the only show I watched on TV. I am officially done. I don't even have cable any more. I won't let myself get sucked in to tv serial dramas again. The people who said from season 1 that the show would never live up to its promises because it was on broadcast tv were right. People who said they were making it up as they went along and quit watching were right (Nebu, for example). What a letdown. What a way to repay the millions of viewers who rabidly watched each episode, foolishly expecting to get more pieces to the big picture. I feel like I have been pushing the button for 6 years while the producers watched from the pearl station.

EDITED: 2010-06-05 12:25:33


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